January 31, 2012.....Bob Brinker's Moneytalk guest-speaker on Sunday was James Rickards. Rickards was an outstanding speaker and I have a treat for you.
Guest writer, FrankJ, has written a very comprehensive summary of this third hour of the program for us:
"Third hour guest: James Rickards, author of Currency Wars: The Making of the Next Global Crisis Bob asked his guest why he wrote this book. Rickards answered that he wanted to explain how international money systems work and put thing in plain English. He mentioned the International Monetary Fund’s creation of a global currency, the SDR (see below).
BB: Is there any appetite for a single global currency? Rickards said yes there is and pointed out that since 2008 the Federal Reserve added over $2 trillion to its balance sheet, but the next time a crisis occurs, the Federal Reserve will not be able to handle it. Like the Fed, the IMF has a printing press and can churn out Special Drawing Rights, (SDRs) so the next time there is a panic, it will be papered over with SDRs. SDRs have been around since 1969 but little used until 2009 when a few hundred billion were printed and “handed out."
In answer to Bob’s question on what the author would have done if he were in Ben Bernanke’s position, Rickards explained that he “would have closed a lot of the banks.” Wipe out the stock holders, give the bond holders a haircut, strip out the bad assets and put them into a government holding entity with the intent to sell them eventually. Then “IPO” the cleaned up bank so that it was in a position to lend. Rickards said that banks today are not in a position to lend because they have so many bad debts and they are investing in government bonds.
BB: Is there any appetite for a single global currency? Rickards said yes there is and pointed out that since 2008 the Federal Reserve added over $2 trillion to its balance sheet, but the next time a crisis occurs, the Federal Reserve will not be able to handle it. Like the Fed, the IMF has a printing press and can churn out Special Drawing Rights, (SDRs) so the next time there is a panic, it will be papered over with SDRs. SDRs have been around since 1969 but little used until 2009 when a few hundred billion were printed and “handed out."
In answer to Bob’s question on what the author would have done if he were in Ben Bernanke’s position, Rickards explained that he “would have closed a lot of the banks.” Wipe out the stock holders, give the bond holders a haircut, strip out the bad assets and put them into a government holding entity with the intent to sell them eventually. Then “IPO” the cleaned up bank so that it was in a position to lend. Rickards said that banks today are not in a position to lend because they have so many bad debts and they are investing in government bonds.
Bob challenged Rickards’ nationalization stance and the author responded that in effect, the government has already nationalized them, in a stealth manner, but they placed the cost on the taxpayers instead of on management, the stockholders and the bondholders.
Bob said that they (government/taxpayers) got their money back. Rickards said they only got it back because Fannie and Freddie are the “backdoor bailout mechanism.” He said that it was “all rigged."
The “all rigged” comment prompted Bob to ask if there was some under the table conspiracy and what was meant by “rigged.” Rickards reiterated that the stockholders and bondholders of banks did not take the hit they should have and that Fannie and Freddie, banks, the home mortgage industry, Congress and the Treasury are acting in concert to place a floor under housing prices. Bob asked the guest if he would have closed Fannie and Freddie. Answer: “Sure."
Bob asked him what condition the housing market would be in if that had happened and Rickards said housing would be down an additional 20-25% and unemployment would be much higher. 2009’s economic pain would have been worse but Rickards believes we would be better off today. He linked governments inaction during the depression in 1919-1920 to a quick recovery, and said the depression of the 1930s lasted longer than it should have because of government’s attempts to intervene. Rickards said that today, businesses are sitting on their cash because of the uncertainty about what government might do next.
After the break, talk turned to Europe and James Rickard said the Euro would hang in there. He thinks Angela Merkel “gets it” because she IS NOT and economist.
Caller David asked if we should raise taxes to get out of debt? JR explained three ways to solve the debt problem: 1) Default (which the US will not do). 2) Inflation – he said government is “working hard to create inflation.” 3) The third method is to grow the economy. He said we have an anti-growth government with this administration. Go pro-growth with an elimination of the corporate income tax and capital gains taxes. Go to a personal flat tax, break up the big banks, ban derivatives.
Bob said that they (government/taxpayers) got their money back. Rickards said they only got it back because Fannie and Freddie are the “backdoor bailout mechanism.” He said that it was “all rigged."
The “all rigged” comment prompted Bob to ask if there was some under the table conspiracy and what was meant by “rigged.” Rickards reiterated that the stockholders and bondholders of banks did not take the hit they should have and that Fannie and Freddie, banks, the home mortgage industry, Congress and the Treasury are acting in concert to place a floor under housing prices. Bob asked the guest if he would have closed Fannie and Freddie. Answer: “Sure."
Bob asked him what condition the housing market would be in if that had happened and Rickards said housing would be down an additional 20-25% and unemployment would be much higher. 2009’s economic pain would have been worse but Rickards believes we would be better off today. He linked governments inaction during the depression in 1919-1920 to a quick recovery, and said the depression of the 1930s lasted longer than it should have because of government’s attempts to intervene. Rickards said that today, businesses are sitting on their cash because of the uncertainty about what government might do next.
After the break, talk turned to Europe and James Rickard said the Euro would hang in there. He thinks Angela Merkel “gets it” because she IS NOT and economist.
Caller David asked if we should raise taxes to get out of debt? JR explained three ways to solve the debt problem: 1) Default (which the US will not do). 2) Inflation – he said government is “working hard to create inflation.” 3) The third method is to grow the economy. He said we have an anti-growth government with this administration. Go pro-growth with an elimination of the corporate income tax and capital gains taxes. Go to a personal flat tax, break up the big banks, ban derivatives.
Bob asked about China’s manipulation of their currency. Rickards shot back that the US is the biggest manipulator of currency in the world, via quantitative easing. He said QE was designed to reduce the value of the dollar in the currency markets. It did not cause inflation in the US as some predicted, it caused it in China. Rickards says that inflation will now come to the US in the form of higher prices for imported goods. Bob disagreed and predicted inflation would remain low in 2012.
Caller Alan from Illinois wanted to get back to the old days of the savings and loan when lenders were limited in what they could loan on, borrowers had to put down 20%, and have a steady job. He suggested that without Fannie and Freddie we would not have had the bust. Rickards agreed with his recollection and gave his own history lesson as to how Congress raised the FDIC protection to $100,000, which had the unintended consequences of banks and S&Ls making risky loans. Rickards said that when he started in banking, the rule was, “a loan should hold up in all phases of the business cycle,” but this notion has gone away with the securitization of loan packages."
Honey's Comments: Thank you FrankJ, for that great summary of this Moneytalk guest-speaker. You certainly covered all the high points.
As you pointed out, Brinker immediately jumped on Rickard's comment about Fannie and Freddie being "all rigged." Then Rickard really hammered his point home by saying he would have closed them altogether.
Another interesting point is that Rickards said that Merkel is the only head of state in the world "who gets it"-- for the reasons that you stated.
Rickard's response to David's call was a bit disturbing. As you wrote, he said that the United States would never default because we have the printing press. We might never default, but what will we be able to buy with those dollars if they keep running the printing press? Like Rickard's said, "Good luck buying a loaf of bread."
As you wrote, Rickard's third method to get out of debt was to have a pro-growth policy. I found it refreshing that unlike Bob Brinker, Rickard's had no trouble actually saying, "The Obama Administration" when he point out that we now have anti-growth policies with the Obama Administration.
I laughed out loud when Rickards said that inflation is picking up now and we can expect to see higher inflation this year as a result of increasing Chinese import prices, and the "Fed's misguided currency policy." Brinker broke his own policy of not disagreeing with his guests while they are on the air -- guess he just couldn't help himself since he has been preaching no inflation for so long.
FrankJ and I rate the James Rickards interview an 8 on a scale of 1 - 10. I recommend downloading this program from the KSFO560 archives FOR FREE Moneytalk on Demand. It will be there until Sunday morning. Go to KSFO.com Click on "Listen/Seven Day Archives/Sunday" Then download hours 1-2, 2-3, and 3-4pm.
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