Wednesday, December 21, 2011

December 21, 2011, Mark Hulbert Said: "Honor Pays" But is the "Honor Roll" Honorable?

December 21, 2011...........................................................(comments welcome)

On Moneytalk last Sunday, Bob Brinker bragged about Marketimer newsletter being on the Hulbert Financial Digest "Honor Roll," and he advertises it on his website.  Are Bob Brinker and Mark Hulbert acting honorably, or is it all about the money? I report, you decide.

Once a year, Mark Hulbert creates a list of newsletter writers and calls it an  "Honor Roll."  However, these "Honor Roll" choices are based on Hulbert's own subjective criteria and have very little to do with actual performance of the newsletters.

One of Hulbert's criteria is his own created "categories" of up and down stock market periods. In the December 2011 issue of Hulbert Financial Digest titled "Honor Pays," Hulbert wrote:
 "Of the nine letters on last year’s Honor Roll, just six made it on to this year’s. It’s not that the remaining three did anything terrible over the last 12 months to cause them to come off this list. They continue to have excellent long-term returns. They instead were victims in part of my re-categorizing the last dozen years into different “up” and “down” periods, which I did in order to recognize the market’s decline that began this past spring as a separate “down” period."
 Hulbert doesn't base his "Honor Roll" on overall performance. Matter of fact, he clearly states that some of the best performing newsletters don't fit into his  subjective "criteria."  In the December issue, Hulbert continues:
 "Of the nine letters on last year’s Honor Roll, just six made it on to this year’s. It’s not that the remaining three did anything terrible over the last 12 months to cause them to come off this list. They continue to have excellent long-term returns. They instead were victims in part of my re-categorizing the last dozen years into different “up” and “down” periods, which I did in order to recognize the market’s decline that began this past spring as a separate “down” period."
 Hulbert further explains his criteria and says that many letters with as good or better returns don't make the list:
"The Hulbert Financial Digest’s Newsletter Honor Roll is loosely modeled on Forbes’ Mutual Fund Survey. However, the Newsletter Honor Roll that appears in this issue is entirely the work of the HFD and is not endorsed by, or in any way affiliated with, Forbes magazine."
"HFD has performance data extending back to August 31, 1998 (the beginning date for being eligible for this year’s Honor Roll). On those pages, you’ll find no fewer than 22 additional services whose overall returns are just as good, or better, than those that did make the Honor Roll—but which nevertheless did not meet the criteria for making it onto the Honor Roll."
Hulbert also explains that he uses arbitrary "up and down" market periods to grade newsletters for his Honor Roll.  Hulbert says the letters he grades have a "heavy US equity focus."  And importantly, he says if a newsletter has more than one portfolio, he uses an average of them. Bob Brinker's Marketimer has three portfolios, one of which is about 50% bonds  which over Hulbert's time span have done better than stocks.

How interesting that Bob Brinker has to rely on the Honor Roll portion of HFD to promote his own newsletter. Perhaps because he cannot use his HFD overall performance ranking. Here's why:  In the time frame nearest Hulbert's Honor roll criteria (ten years), Marketimer doesn't make it on the list. I dug a little deeper and found that Marketimer is number 20 in that time frame.  December 2011 Hulbert Financial Digest:


So in spite of Marketimer's lagging performance, Brinker always seems to make it on to  Hulbert's "Honor Roll" which he then uses for advertising Marketimer.  And on the other hand, Mark Hulbert uses Bob Brinker's Marketimer presence on the Honor Roll in his "for sale"  writings and newsletters.   Some examples: In addition to Hulbert Financial Digest, there are these examples of Hulbert writing about Bob Brinker for Barrons  and Marketwatch  "Hulbert on Markets"

And it doesn't end there. Take a look at this ridiculously slanted  Barron's article written about Mark Hulbert writing about Bob Brinker.

To sum it all up, this December 19, 2011 Forbes article tells it like it is. The author says "Thank Goodness for Index Funds" and compares Bernie Madoff type of fraud with bad investment advice, such as Bob Brinker's, as ways to lose money. Rick Ferri wrote:

"Finally, index investors were saved from countless terrible market calls made by so-called experts. Here is a sample of bad advice that torpedoed the savings of many people:
  • Who can forget this famous book published in early 2000? Dow 36,000: The New Strategy for Profiting from the Coming Rise in the Stock Market, was published by James K. Glassman and Kevin A. Hassett at the very peak of the market bubble. It was a period when people were mortgaging their homes to get into the stock market.
  • Bob Brinker couldn’t have been more off the mark with his market prediction in late 2007.  “The short-term correction that began in October and continued into November has served as a health-restoring pullback and has paved the way for new record highs in the S&P 500 index.” The S&P 500 collapsed 37 percent in 2008.


Read more at Forbes: "Thank Goodness for Index Funds" by Rick Ferri (Please note that this Forbes article sources  Kirk Lindstrom, and my blog.) 

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

"Thank Goodness for Index Funds" and compares Bernie Madoff type of fraud with bad investment advice, such as Bob Brinker's, as ways to lose money."

That's an extremely misleading statement. The article lists outright fraud like Madoff, bankruptcies and then bad investment advice.

It doesn't "compare" Ponzi scheme fraud with Bob Brinker's advice in any way whatsoever! To even suggest such a link is way over reaching.

Careful Reader

jeffchristie said...

In a couple of week Bob Brinker will post the balances for his portfolios as of 31 Dec 2011. Someone here has posted that the two stock market portfolios are negative year to date. I have taken a preliminary look at his five year performance. If the final numbers are anything close to my preliminary numbers Brinker should be on academic probation instead of the honor roll.

It will be interesting to see what Brinker does. Will he keep reporting one and five year results with unimpressive numbers or will he change the way he reports. Maybe his three year performance is better than his five year numbers. Perhaps he will show one, three, ten and fifteen year results. We should know in a couple of weeks.

Honeybee said...

Careful Reader....Well you must have flunked reading because my statement is absolutely correct as stated: "Compare....as ways to lose money."

Here are some excerpts from Forbes article showing how index investing over the past twelve years would have saved one from these financial disasters:

"As I look back over the last 12 years, what is most impressive about index investing isn’t the rock bottom fees or respectable long-term returns, it’s how index investors avoided thousands of disasters in the marketplace that torpedoed the savings of millions of investors. Index investors were not the victims of dozens of Ponzi scams or hundreds of multi-billion dollar corporate and municipal bankruptcies, nor were they they casualties of poor investment advice from self-proclaimed market experts.

Let’s look back at a few of the calamities that plagued investors who didn’t index. These examples are the tip of the iceberg. There were so many scams, bankruptcies, and outright bad advice that occurred in recent years that it isn’t impossible to list them all.

(SNIP)

Finally, index investors were saved from countless terrible market calls made by so-called experts. Here is a sample of bad advice that torpedoed the savings of many people:

* Who can forget this famous book published in early 2000? Dow 36,000: The New Strategy for Profiting from the Coming Rise in the Stock Market, was published by James K. Glassman and Kevin A. Hassett at the very peak of the market bubble. It was a period when people were mortgaging their homes to get into the stock market.

* Bob Brinker couldn’t have been more off the mark with his market prediction in late 2007. “The short-term correction that began in October and continued into November has served as a health-restoring pullback and has paved the way for new record highs in the S&P 500 index.” The S&P 500 collapsed 37 percent in 2008.


Read more at Forbes

Pig said...

It will be interesting to see what Brinker does. Will he keep reporting one and five year results with unimpressive numbers or will he change the way he reports.

He will do the same thing that the Govt does with unemployment numbers and poll numbers........use a different method for counting.

Numbers can be manipulated to show and prove almost anything that you want them to show.

Anonymous said...

bob brinker on the honor roll ! yeah sure hulbert he's a joke too .

Anonymous said...

I am so glad that at least somebody got brinker's call out there to investors for the last 4 years brinker has been acting like he didn't miss a thing the guy is a hold and pretend advisor.

Dan G said...

After taking obscene profits this morning, Dan has left the building...or at least the stock market for the long weekend.

It was overbought and I was about as far extended with SSO as I've ever been. I am exhausted!

Making and counting money is really hard work! :-) Time to relax and watch someone else trade for awhile! C'mon 5:00 PM! Set 'em up, Joe!

Honeybee said...

Based on some of the comments that I'm getting, it looks like "someone" is more than a little upset about what I wrote about honor.

Wonder why anyone would keep reading this blog if they hate me so much that they would twist my real name in a pejorative way -- just like Bob Brinker has done so many times -- both on the air and on message boards?

Merry Christmas Bob and Bobby Jr. There is no honor among thieves.

DIctionary Man said...

Nepotism is favoritism granted to relatives regardless of merit.

Nepotism is widespread in Canadian business and legal practices especially among new graduates. It is not uncommon for major law elite law firms or major banks and accounting firms to hire sons and daughters of current employees, even if they have poor grades and are less qualified than other graduates.

Someone could add to the references cited for "United State" that Bob Brinker Jr at the peak of the internet bubble said he had no interest in his father's business... but when jobs he was qualified for went to India and the Philippines, he changed his tune and now pretends to be his father with a newsletter that gets all sorts of accolades he didn't earn or deserve but for being mistake as his father. His father aids with the decption by accepting praise for "his fixed income letter" on the radio without correcting callers to tell them it is done by his son and daughter-in-law, not him.

Bob Brinker's Asset Allocation History said...

"It doesn't "compare" Ponzi scheme fraud with Bob Brinker's advice in any way whatsoever! "

That is not how I see it. I see the article as listing many "experts" who delivered crap. Some crap came via fraudulent Ponzi schemes and others such as Brinker's came from snake oil market timing advice that fools people into thinking he can time the markets and save you from massive losses.

If you invested $500K or less with Madoff in 2007, you eventually got it all back since he was insured for up to that amount.

If you invested the same $500K with Brinker in Dec 2007 (he had a money management company he advertised back then) or followed his advice to go "all in" at S&P500... you are still waiting to get back to even. There is no insurance for bad advice or putting your money with a money manager who loses it legally.

Anonymous said...

In the spirit of Christmas, I'll spare the forum a description of what I would like to do to the he-she stalker boys ('cause they ain't men) harassing HoneyBee.

But Honey, fluffy loves ya...

tfb

Honeybee said...

Dear TFB....thank you. :)

As long as I have special friends like you, the bxxtards cannot get me down -- for long anyway.

Merry Christmas to you and much blessings for the New Year! It's going to be an interesting one....

Anonymous said...

someone could add to the references cited for "United State" that Bob Brinker Jr at the peak of the internet bubble said he had no interest in his father's business... but when jobs he was qualified for went to India and the Philippines, he changed his tune...

Above is a rather singular point that illustrates how little Brinker really understands about the world around him. The reality is Da Brink use to brag about the great future Junior would have in IT and encouraged caller after caller to solve their unemployment wows vi an education in IT.

Brinker was totally blinded to the concept of globalization and how the Internet would effect the job market and enable off shoring.

Either Da Brink did not see (it is obvious he did not) or Brink J(erk)unior had so little regard for Papa Hucketer's (I mean Brinker's) understanding of economics that he ignored his counsel.

tfb

Honeybee said...

For those interested in the world of mortgage REITS:

MREIT year-end review

Anonymous said...

Here is what it is like to be a Marketimer subscriber. Pay your dime and trust the man behind the curtain and bingo, in just a year you will have an answer.

gronieel2

Anonymous said...

Santa Cruz Police Seek Robber Who Stole Bag of Dog Poo

The man demanded the woman hand over everything she had when he robbed her on Dakota Avenue Thursday morning. He probably wasn't happy afterwards.

Police are seeking a robber who got away with more than he probably wanted.

Shortly before 10 a.m. Thursday a man approached a 62-year-old woman who was walking her dog on the 100 block of Dakota Avenue and demanded she hand over everything she was carrying or he would kick her dog.

She did.

It was a bag filled with dog droppings.

The suspect is described as 18-22 years old, 5 feet 10 inches tall and weighing 160 pounds. He was wearing a black sweatshirt and blue jeans.

Anonymous said...

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