Bob Brinker disagrees with Lakshman Acuthan and has been very vocal about saying so on Moneytalk. Bob even blames recession predictions for scaring investors out of the market.
Shortly after ECRI's CEO, Lakshman Achuthan, made the recession prediction, Bob said this on Moneytalk: "You know, we have these private forecasters out there going around beating the drums of recession. Warning everybody that the US is going back into recession. Batten down the hatches and get in the bomb shelter because we are in a lot of economic trouble. That is what they say, but that's not what we see. So far, we see an economy that continues to grow slowly.......
....One of things that amazes me about the private firms that are forecasting a recession in here is their conviction. I mean they talk about it like it's a fait accompli. They talk about it like it's for sure -- take it to the bank. Well I'm not taking it to the bank. What do you think about that? I think these forecasters are wrong, but I'll look forward to their apology....this is Moneytalk."
In Marketimer Bob almost always reports data about the Conference Board Index of Leading Economic Indicators (LEI) and the Coincident Economic Index (CEI). Bob's conclusions are different from Lakshman Achuthan's.
In the March issue of Marketimer, Bob wrote: "Taking these two indexes together, we conclude that the current economic expansion remains intact. We continue to expect real gross domestic product (GDP) growth in 2012 within a range of 1.5% to 2.5%, which is slightly more conservative than the Federal Reserve forecast."On the other hand, here are excepts from ECRI's latest public report. Businesscycle: Why our Recession Call Stands :
"Let’s start with the current state of the economy. A couple of weeks ago, we publicly highlighted ECRI’s U.S. Coincident Index (USCI). It’s important to understand that the USCI isn’t a random concoction of data, but rather the gold standard for measuring current economic growth, as it summarizes the key coincident economic indicators used to determine the official start and end dates of U.S. recessions; namely, the broad measures of output, employment, income and sales. So when USCI growth is in a downturn (bottom line in chart), it’s an authoritative indication that overall U.S. economic growth is actually worsening, not reviving.(SNIP)
In contrast to the 3% GDP growth widely reported for the latest quarter, year-over-year growth in GDP, after peaking at 3½% in Q3/2010, has basically flatlined around 1½% for the last three quarters. Broad sales growth has followed a similar pattern, while the growth rates of personal income and industrial production have dropped to their lowest readings since the spring of 2010.
The exception to this weakening pattern is year-over-year payroll job growth, which continued to improve through January, and was essentially flat in February. However, the empirical record shows that job growth typically turns down after downturns in consumer spending growth, not the other way around. Because consumer spending growth remains in a cyclical downturn, we expect job growth to start flagging in the coming months. But the point remains that the USCI, which summarizes the definitive coincident economic indicators – including jobs – indicates declining growth in the U.S. economy.
In the chart, please note the one-to-one correspondence between the cyclical swings in the year-over-year growth rates of the WLI and USCI since the Great Recession. Both surged initially, only to roll over, pop up briefly, and then turn down once again. It is notable that the WLI, which is sensitive to the prices of risk assets that have been supported by massive worldwide liquidity injections, has hardly been swayed from its recessionary trajectory. In spite of the efforts of monetary policy makers, actual U.S. economic growth has slowed, while WLI growth has barely budged from a two-and-a-half-year low.
The bigger question is, can unprecedented, concerted global monetary policy action repeal the business cycle? The objective coincident and leading indexes that we have always monitored are still telling us that it cannot."
Some humor:
birdbrain said...
"In this corner wearing blue and gold trunks, co-founder of ECRI, predictor of an upcoming recession and who has the courage to appear with Suzanne Pratt on Nightly Business Report, Lakshman Achuthan.
And in this corner wearing in-the-red trunks, publisher of Marketholder, looking for a comeback after being defeated by both Cassandra and Bad News Bear in 2008 and terribly pummeled by Nevada Property, from Lake Las Vegas, Bob Brinker."
Pay per view, anyone?
And in this corner wearing in-the-red trunks, publisher of Marketholder, looking for a comeback after being defeated by both Cassandra and Bad News Bear in 2008 and terribly pummeled by Nevada Property, from Lake Las Vegas, Bob Brinker."
Pay per view, anyone?
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So where is the recession the ECRI called for in September of last year?
Do we ignore retail sales up year over year? Do we ignore industrial production up year over year? Do we ignore jobless claims dropping?
I think ECRI makes up the rules as they go along.
Almost 6 months ago ECRI said their long-leading indicators - which look ahead about 6 months - said we were "tipping into a recession." Six months hence, according to them back then, we should be in an obvious recession, or very very close to one, with most macroeconomic indicators in a clear state of deterioration.
But we aren't. Thus, their long-leading indicators of 6 months ago have failed miserably. Period, end of story. Since their long-leading indicators which were supposed to look 6 months ahead have failed miserably, there's little reason to believe they'll be any more accurate 6 months from now.
Anon12,
I agree that it's not looking good for ECRI's prediction. But in order to totally understand why they are sticking to it, you need to go to the link I provided and read all of what they published.
Also, DShort explained it in a great article complete with graphs: ECRI Weekly Leading Index update
OilFinder,
Lakshman Achuthan said that they will not know if they are wrong until a year from the original prediction in September 2011.
Are you interested in buying a book that contains a section where Bob Brinker talks about his sports casting days?
NSSA Member Proctor Releases Book On ‘The Business’
March 17, 2012
Mel Proctor is a television and radio sports veteran, a former play-by-play voice of the Baltimore Orioles, Texas Rangers, Washington Nationals, San Diego Padres, Washington Bullets, New Jersey Nets and Los Angeles Clippers
Here are his thoughts on his new book:
As you may have noticed, my book I Love the Work but I Hate the Business, has finally been released as an Ebook. For anyone who is interested in sports, television, show business or good gossip, I think you’ll enjoy this. It is filled with anecdotes and stories from my thirty plus years in sports broadcasting.
As I wrote the book, I laughed, I cried, I screamed in anger and then had a glass of wine. Sometimes two. I encourage you to take the same trip.
I’ve already received emails from some of the wonderful people who appear in the book:
From Curt Smith, author of Voices of the Game and The Storytellers
“Mel Proctor is among the best-ever sportscasters. This book shows why. Mel is as nimble and artful on the printed page as he is on the air. Here are radio/TV’s bright lights and dim bulbs; broadcasting’s pros and cons, and sport’s many sides-funny, poignant, commercial, and above all, human. From the Orioles to Padres, World Football League to Fox TV, Mel has led a compelling life. I Love the Work But I Hate the Business captures it. A terrific read.”
From Ted Shaker, former Executive Producer of CBS Sports
“What a remarkable career! Seriously. The anecdote about Tony Bennett doing a sketch of you asleep on the plane is priceless.
Your book’s title says it all. Ironically, friends and former colleagues in important positions all over the industry today keep telling me that that period, when we worked together, long ago, was the “golden age of sports television.”
From Terry Ewert, former Executive Producer of NBC Sports
“I went through the entire book just reading excerpts, and the stories are fantastic. Well done. I wish you you good luck with the book. Very candid stuff. A fun read. I look forward to going through it in more detail.”
From Bob Brinker, host of ABC Radio’s “Moneytalk”
“Mel Proctor shares great sports stories from his years as one of America’s leading play-by-play broadcasters. He takes readers from his early broadcasting days through his rapid climb to his MLB years calling the plays for the Rangers, Orioles, Padres and Nationals. He also recounts his days as the play-by-play voice of the NBA Bullets, Nets and Clippers. This one is a must read for sports fans as it provides colorful insight into the world of sports broadcasting from one of the great voices of the game.”
You can get the Kindle version at Amazon. com: I Love the Work But I Hate the Business
The downturn should manifest itself around August if I remember correctly.
tfb
"A general view is that ECRI's headlights shine about six months into the future, which would make Q1 2012 GDP a critical number for evaluating ECRI's stance. In his recent media appearances, ECRI's Achuthan has said that his company's date for the start of the recession extends though the first half of 2012."
http://advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/ECRI-Weekly-Leading-Index.php
Shucks (who says that anymore)! Well, anyway...missed Bob's opening remarks. How ya' doin', Honey. ras here. So, what did BB say anyway? Seems like Bob was always an ECRI fan. Go figure.
Hi Ras,
Yes, Bob Brinker used to be a fan of ECRI, but not this time.
Check back later tonight for my summary and I'll give you a complete rundown on the opening segment as well as the rest of the program.....
Good to hear from you, my friend.... :)
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