STOCK MARKET....Brinker told a couple of callers that he was "comfortable" with them having their full stock allocations invested. Several callers today asked questions pertaining to the stock market -- which I have covered below. Brinker's answers indicate that he is still fully invested and bullish.
STOCK MARKET FLASH CRASH..... Brinker comments: Big news this week about the 2010 flash crash.....It was a big deal because it had a big impact on many retail investors.....It was basically an event where about $1 trillion in stock market value was erased in a matter of minutes.… There was a 36 minute period, starting at 232 Eastern time in which the market had a collapse and rebound the likes of which has never been seen in such a short period of time. The velocity of price action was mind-boggling....At its intraday low point, the Dow was down 998 1/2 points, or at that time was about 9% of its value in a matter of a few minutes. Now much of that loss was subsequently recovered but it was the second largest point swing of all long time.
Here is the link to the article that I posted in comments last week: Trader Arrested in Manipulation That Contributed to 2010 Flash Crash
STOCK MARKET FALLOUT FROM FLASH CRASH....Brinker continued: And a lot of fallout came after this and was unfortunate because there were people who looked at the flash crash and said, you know what, that's not for me.… And that's why stock market investors pulled out about $25 billion from the market right after the flash crash. And that's why mutual investors pulled out almost $100 billion from US stock funds over a period of about eight months – week after week....And when the investigation was held as to what had happened, well people were not satisfied.…
HIGH-FREQUENCY TRADER ARRESTED.... Brinker continued: As of this week we have a new explanation because the Commodities Futures Trading Corporation, along with the Justice Department, claim claim that a 36-year-old London high frequency trader made $40 million from 2009 on by programming and illegally manipulating the futures market – specifically what is known as the E-mini futures market. He's accused of doing this by making it appear that there were more sell orders than by orders. There's a Wall Street term for this and that term is layering. But in the case of this individual, the layering was a little different because he had the ability through his computer set up to cancel old orders and add new orders so fast that the sell side pressure went on and on and on.…
PANIC STOCK MARKET SELLING FOR WEEKS.... Brinker continued: Following this catalyst there was a selling panic on the stock exchanges. So this is the latest twist, if you will, on the flash crash....For all of that money, over $100 billion, to get subsequently withdrawn from the market.
STOCK MARKET SUBSEQUENTLY WENT STRAIGHT UP.... Brinker continued: It's a shame because look what the market is done since then… Since that time of the flash crash the market has soared – it's skyrocketed. And from that point on, with an exception of a correction in the summer of 2010, and a correction in the autumn of 2011, the market has almost been straight up. Yes there have been correction but not big corrections. The biggest correction cents the autumn of 2011 on a closing basis in the S&P 500 has been 9.9%. And we only had one of those.
WHATTA SHAME INVESTORS GOT SCARED OUT.... Brinker continued: So it's very unfortunate that this happened, because a lot of people left the market as a result of it and never came back. And therefore have missed out on gargantuan stock market gains in recent years. And that's a shame because you don't like to see people missing out on giant stock market gains – especially for a reason like this.… This is not a good reason – because somebody is playing computer games and manipulating prices. That is not a good reason to get shaken out of the market. But it happened to a lot of people and that's most unfortunate.
Honey EC: Brinker needs to take some of the blame for people getting scared out, and being afraid to get back in. For a couple of years now, he has been very been negative because of the lack of corrections -- issuing warnings and cautioning listeners and subscribers about being "vigilant," only dollar-cost-averaging "on weakness," which never came.
SOLID PENSION AS FIXED INCOME PORTION OF PORTFOLIO....Caller Frank from Michigan said: "I get a pension, like a regular pension that people used to get in America. And I was wondering, can I count that as, I have a 401(k), and I have almost 100% in the S&P. Can I say that my pension is balancing my risk?"
AT 100% STOCKS EXPECT VOLATILITY..... Brinker replied: If you're going to stay invested all the time, the one thing you have to accept is a lot of volatility. It's not always going to be like the last six years which is been pretty rosy for the stock market. It's not always good to be like that so if you're going to maintain that regardless you're going to have to accept the volatility.
COUNTING ON BRINKER FOR STOCK MARKET WARNING.....Frank followed up: "I was hoping I'd get a news bulletin from you like I did – not the last bubble, but the one before that, the tech bubble."
Brinker replied: "That would be wonderful. That would be wonderful. I agree with that."
Honey EC: It's shocking that so many people believe that Brinker called "a tech bubble" in 2000. Just the opposite, he was advising buying with cash reserves that he had raised from model portfolios as the Nasdaq dropped about 70%. I have covered this before, but he only raised 65% cash from equities in 2000 and put much of those cash reserves back into QQQ and lost 70% of it -- with a special bulletin that Frank mentioned.
COUNT PENSION AS FIXED INCOME.....(after finding out Frank's pension was secure Brinker continued): If you would count that $50,000 a year as $1,000,000 dollars in the bond market yielding that, you would have an equity ratio of less than 25%.… I mean if you look at the where yields are today.… You could do it in a diversified way with high grade bonds. You'd have to be way out on the maturity scale so you'd have to hold them to maturity because rates being as low as they are now. They're not going to stay here forever.… If you want to look at it that way, now, you could do it. Some people would say, you have $400,000 in the stock market and you have nothing in bonds. But you could say, I have $50,000 in annual solid, annual pension income.… If you woke up tomorrow and your 400,000 was worth 200,000 because people thought the world was coming to an end, it wouldn't really change anything for you – you'd still have your pension so that's why I think you can get away with it.
HOW WILL THE STOCK MARKET REACT WHEN FED RAISES INTEREST RATES.... Karl from Chicago wanted to know when the fed would and how the Fed would interest rates and would it shock the stock market.
Brinker replied: I think that the markets understand that the Federal Reserve eventually will move in the direction of normalizing rates. I think that the markets are learning that the Federal Reserve, as you said, are very nervous about the notion of raising interest rates. And the reason that they are nervous is because they realize that the economy is growing very slowly. We are going to get a lousy, with a capital L, report on first-quarter Gross Domestic Product next week.… The Fed knows all of this. The theory is that the economy is going to do better the next to the year – and I think that is a reasonable assumption at this point.
25 BASIS POINT INCREASE WON'T CHANGE ANYTHING...Brinker continued: But let's face it, a 25 basis point increase in the federal funds rate is not going to change anything. It's not going to slow down the economy. It's not going to have a dramatic impact on intermediate and long-term rates. It's the first baby step toward normalization.
FEDERAL RESERVE HAS A STOP AND START POLICY...Brinker continued: And now we also know that the Federal Reserve has a stop and start policy that they are willing to implement, which means that if they raise rates 25 basis point at a meeting, that does not mean that they are going to do it every meeting. They are willing to stop and start – monitoring the economy is. Also remember that the Fed knows if and when they increase rates in the current environment, they are doing the opposite of what other countries are doing. The European Union is easing. Japan is easing.…
FEDERAL RESERVE IN A TOUGH SPOT...Brinker continued: I think that they are caught in a tough spot because I think they really would like to increase rates very very much. There's no question in my mind that they would be much happier if they could increase rates – get toward normalization because they believe that it gives them more flexibility than having a zero rate policy. They have this zero rate policy that when an in December 2008 and they been stuck with it every sense because they haven't been able to do anything about it. So they had to invent a new easing policy known as quantitative easing – which they did. So they feel like they would like to have rates go up so that they could bring rates down if they had to – but they're afraid to put rates up because the economy's been fragile and now we're going to see a lousy first-quarter number.… On the other side of the coin, is the fact that the Federal Reserve has the ability to keep rates down because there is no inflation. The year-over-year CPI is negative – 0.1.…
NO CHANCE OF FED RAISING RATES NEXT WEEK....Brinker said: "I would say there is no chance that the Federal Reserve will raise rates at this week's upcoming meeting and they are going to remain data dependent – just as they have said."
$18 TRILLION NATIONAL DEBT ....Caller Bruce from Milwaukee said: "The United States has $18 trillion in debt now and we keep electing politicians that don't balance a budget. How much more debt in the US handle?"
NATIONAL DEBT NO PROBLEM WITH 3% GDP.....Brinker replied: I think the answer to your question is, I think the country can handle debt that is less than 3% of Gross Domestic Product in annual interest serviced, which is where we are now. We are at two and a fraction.… As long as the economy is growing. But I think that when the debt service becomes more than 3%, then I think we have a growing problem.
POLITICIANS DON'T ADDRESS PROBLEMS.... Brinker continued: You are correct, we do have politicians in Washington that are not addressing the future. They have failed to address the infrastructure in our country… They have failed to address the problems with Social Security and worst of all, they have failed to address the Medicare problem – the imbalance in future Medicare expenses and income.… They're not addressing it because it's unpopular politics… It's not a good way to get elected. And politicians like to get elected – they don't like to spend money and time losing. Why do the voters let them get away with it? That's a very good question.… I don't see any prospect right now of balancing the budget… Especially with the slow growth that we have.… Were already controlling spending quite tightly on a year-over-year basis. So I would say with moderate growth even, I don't see that we're going to balance the budget. Do I think it's important? No. As long as we keep the interest service below 3% of GDP on a annual basis.… But I think the bigger problem is, as we go forward the deficit is going to increase.
Honey EC: Brinker's choice about what needs to be addressed in Washington D.C. is very subjective. I can think of several things that are much more critical to the national debt.
ECONOMY....Brinker said: "We are going to get a lousy, with a capital L, report on first-quarter Gross Domestic Product next week.…"
THERE IS NO INFLATION...Brinker said: "On the other side of the coin, is the fact that the Federal Reserve has the ability to keep rates down because there is no inflation. The year-over-year CPI is negative – 0.1" and he commented that inflation is very low everywhere except San Francisco where it is 2 1/2%.
NASTY CALL OF THE DAY....Caller Joe from Florida said that brokers and fund managers were just below child molesters. Brinker replied that there was no hope for him if he believed that.
Frankj's Third-Hour Guest Summary:
Bob interviewed Paul Sullivan a New York Times columnist and author of the book, The Thin Green Line: The Money Secrets of the Super Wealthy
The Thin Green Line, The Money Secrets of the Super Wealthy. Paul said he wrote the book because he wanted to see how he and his family could get on the “wealthy” side of life.
He lunched with a group of wealthy people who meet once a month. To be part of this elite group you need at least $10 million in assets and you also have to be willing to pungle up $30,000 a year to pay for lunch. Paul said they don’t trade stock tips or estate strategies, they talk about more weighty issues like how wealth will affect their kids and grandkids, how to deal with charities.
With regard to charities, the guest said the very wealthy grapple with problems on how to give money away so their giving is effective. An eBay co-founder worth 8-9 billion is trying to give money to educational causes but wants to know his giving will have a measurable effect. He cited John Huntsman Sr., a multi-billionaire who regularly tips with $100 bills. Mr. Huntsman supports cancer research.
Bullet points:
· Don’t fret over taxes. Don’t cheat. Taxes are what we pay to live in a free society. He cited an example of a rich guy who put money offshore and ended up paying much more when caught, and, the financial guy who facilitated it got jail time too.
· If you have young sprouts, age 3 to 8 that is the time to teach them perseverance and resilience two traits that will serve them well.
Tim in Honolulu asked whether the wealthy subjects of the book had opinions about the student loan bubble. Sullivan said this was not a topic but Tim’s question opened the door to discussion. Paul said at age 17 – 18 students are not in position to understand the implications of how student loans can affect one’s life. Bob weighed in with his mantra that college should be free in the US. The guest said something that I think was very important (paraphrasing): Four years of college will not determine what type of person you become intellectually, but the debt you incur can determine a great deal about your life after college.
Bob and the guest proceeded to beat up on institutions that seem to build up endowments just for the sake of doing so. Sullivan said that colleges will sometimes pay the tuition for a top student whose family is below some income level but they still want students who pay the full ride, either from Mom and Dad’s bank account, or from loans. Some with huge endowments could give everyone a free ride if they chose to.
Bill in Omaha asked whether Dems or Repubs give more to charity. Paul Sullivan didn’t deal with that in the book, he said they give to different charities.
Paul Sullivan went to Kansas State and got wired up with some electrodes to take a stress test on money. He learned he is “money vigilant,” meaning he is aware of incoming and outgoing, and this can sometimes affect decisions and you end up depriving yourself of something you can actually afford.
Other categories include money avoidance (don’t want to think about it); money worship, money status (your self worth = money).
Here is a link to this work, it is a scientific paper but you can read about these “money scripts” starting about 14 pages in.
Psychology Today:money-beliefs-and-financial-behaviors-development-the-klontz-money-script-inventory-jft-2011.pdf
Bob wound things up at about 3:50.
Jeffchristie's Moneytalk Final Exam Question of the Day.....
Bob Brinker said that the 2010 flash crash was caused by:
A) The Koch brothers.
B) A trade entered by the money manager of the Clinton foundation.
C) A 36 year old Indian trading in London.
D) A sell signal issued by a newsletter writer.
ANSWER
Summary posted at 7:05pm PDT
READ OR POST COMMENTS
READ OR POST COMMENTS